Archive for January, 2010

Jackson Hill

Friday, January 29th, 2010

I am planning to ski with some out of town guests for the weekend and would like to know if the trails at Jackson Hill will be groomed for the weekend and if the warming hut at is open and if the wood stove is still in place.

What are conditions going to be like this weekend?

Thursday, January 28th, 2010

I can see that some of Tug Hill is getting lake effect, but you seem to be on the eastern edge. I’d love to ski there Sunday, but it’s a long drive for ice. What news?

Cooperstown, NY

Re: Trail Closing

Friday, January 15th, 2010

If we might borrow from an earlier December post regarding the closing of the Alder Creek Gorge trails during the week:

BREIA is now partnering with the Potato Hill Farm Outdoor Education Center (PHFOEC) to provide campuses for outdoor activities to area school groups. Given the large size of the groups and the fact that they will be snowshoeing or hiking on the trails, it was determined that access to the trails at Alder Creek Gorge would be limited to the school groups during the weekday hours of 8:30-2:00 PM. It should be noted that the general public still will have access to the Great Trail, and Cherry Tree Trail on Egypt Rd. and also the Canal Trail and Jackson Hill trail system. We regret any inconvenience that this new restriction causes, but hope that the benefits derived from trail usage by area school children will compensate.

BREIA

Trail closing

Friday, January 15th, 2010

I am disappointed to learn that you are closing the Alder Creek Gorge Trail System weekdays until 2:00. As a retired person, I have enjoyed use of the trails during the weekdays when they are less busy. There are typically 10 to 15 people that I meet on the trails on a typical day who comment on their pleasure of skiing when there are fewer people. What is the reason for closing the trails?

Re: Dogs (revisited)

Friday, January 15th, 2010

Rick,

That sounds like a very unpleasant experience. Any bicyclist that’s been chased by an aggressive dog would probably relate to your story as well. Your point that adults as well children can feel threatened by a large, unleashed dog bounding down the trail is very well taken. The seeming lack of concern of the owner makes the situation even worse. As mentioned in an earlier post, the Oneida County deer predation law prohibits unleashed dogs off of an owner’s private property from mid-Dec. through mid April. Unfortunately BREIA cannot prohibit dogs on the Canal Trail because it is part of the state right-of-way along the Black River Canal. If folks encounter similar situations you might want to contact the local dog control officer or sheriff.

BREIA

Dogs (revisited)

Friday, January 15th, 2010

First I want to say that I love animals and never want to hurt one. However, if it comes down to me or the animal, I’m going to defend myself. That being said, I was out for a ski today on the Canal Trail down at the trail’s end (south of Pixley) when a tall (I’d say 5’10″ish) woman in about her 60s comes skiing at me with a black lab…loose. I stop completely and the dog runs at me and jumps on me! I’m the type of person that will ALWAYS smile and say “hi” (unless their dogs are after me) and I’ve met some really nice people out on the trails. I actually yelled a profanity as I was poking the dog with the metal tips of my poles trying to keep him off of me as the woman did not even acknowledge that it was happening. She just skied past! Unbelievable. It’s not just the kids, but adults that the dogs go after, too. I would even go so far as to suggest that NO dogs are allowed on the trails. That kind of behavior shouldn’t be accepted any place and that
woman should be ashamed of herself.

rick

SKI WAX

Monday, January 11th, 2010

Do you recommend a particular all-purpose ski wax? If so, where can it/they be purchased. We skied Black River Canal Trail New Year’s Day and 1 of us got bogged by sticky snow. Thanks

Gail Person

Re: dogs

Wednesday, January 6th, 2010

You bring up a very good point Linda. A large, unleashed dog and small children is not a good situation. It should be noted that Oneida County has a deer predation law requiring dogs off of an owner’s property to be leashed from Dec. through April 15th.

BREIA

Re: dogs

Wednesday, January 6th, 2010

BREIA-
I commend you for your stance on dogs on the trail. I skiied Christmas week four times and twice (Egypt Road)witnessed owners and their dog on the trail. Neither time were these dogs leashed. I was with my four children (10, 9, 6, 5) and when they see a dog about as big as they are coming at them, they are scared even though they hear shouts of “He’s friendly!” It really puts a damper on fun. How can we be sure these people will clean up after their dogs when they are clearly ignoring the rule that bans them in the first place? Please keep this rule in place.
Thank you for providing us with a great place to ski!

Linda

Re: dogs

Tuesday, January 5th, 2010

Dogs and ski trails certainly create a dilemma. Certain folks love to ski with their dogs and don’t feel that anyone should be able to restrict that right. What users of our trails must understand is that the vast majority of the trail system is private property. The wishes of the property owner are to provide an outstanding cross country skiing experience to the general public.

To achieve this we set a double track with our state-of-the-art groomers. Anyone familiar with the process knows that this is a costly endeavor, involving expensive machines, many operator man-hours and thousands of gallons of fuel. This is particularly so when you consider that the BREIA trail system encompasses 50 Km. Unfortunately, many years of experience have proven to us that dog traffic on the trails severely degrade the trail. This is especially evident on the Canal Trail where dogs are permitted. Skiers have mentioned on many occasions that within an hour of grooming the tracks were nearly obliterated by dog traffic.

A question that begs to be answered is: Given the vast surrounding landscape of woods, fields, logging roads, snowmobile trails, etc., why would you choose to take your dog on the only groomed ski tracks for many miles?

BREIA